Whay do people who claim to promote natural health actually do the opposite?

Most of these people never mention a balanced diet and exercise. They usually just recommend expensive vitamin regiments. I believe there is a growing "Big Altie" conspiracy with the intention to make us all sick and addicted to expensive vitamin pills. In my mind, taking any pill isn’t "natural". Necessary sometimes yes, but certainly not natural.
Why, not whay.
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8 comments

  • Lightning

    I don’t agree Dan.
    We don’t all sell vitamins. i certainly don’t and advocate good diet as the first choice to promote good health. Exercise is hit and miss. There is such a thing as over training and injuries occur but yes we are certainly healthier if we do moderate exercise compared to no exercise.

    In my own practice I encourage people to be as independant of me and other healthcare professionals as they can.
    There are a lot of people who will not want to do exercise or eat well and supplementation may be indicated. Lots of people present to medical professional in the same boat, they all get paid and make a living out of it so whats the big deal chief?

    I seriously have to question if you genuinely are a chiropractor or a plant when you ask these kind of questions and use terminology such as ‘big altmed’.

    Edit:
    ###Pretty crazy that the mods would even consider removing it, but hey, what does that tell you?###
    That doesn’t suprise me at all.

    ###A massive part of the vitamin industry is actually owned by Big Pharma (who else have the resources to churn out pills by the trillions?)###
    I’ll take your word for it on this one.

    ###So, when the alties are pushing vitamins, they’re actually doing Big Pharma’s ‘dirty work’ for them. The irony seems to be completely lost on the alt med people and they carry on regardless.##
    Why if its a good product what does it matter who makes it?

    ###It’s bizarre that for people who are so hooked on ‘natural’ cures they’re far happier shoving a dozen pills down their throat than eating an orange or banana.###
    For once i couldn’t agree more. What you eat is the best way to stay healthy.

  • irishlass

    There are people on both ends of the spectrum, first you have the prescription weight loss pushers and then you get the "vitamin" pushers who claim the latter just want your money, but the vitamin pushers actually wind up costing more money.

    There is a book called "The Vitamin Pushers", by Dr. Vincent Herbert, it is an excellent book where all these false practitioners are exposed, there is even one chapter where the Doctors dog obtained a mail order Nutrition Degree.

    A balanced diet with adequate variety of fresh fruit and vegetables paired up with an exercise/weight lifting regime is more than enough to help lose weight and maintain a healthy lifestyle, a variety of fresh fruits/vegetables are needed because vitamin/mineral content vary in fruits/vegetables so if you eat a wide variety you will be able to cover all the bases.

  • Flashflood

    Actually, many alt med disciplines DO recommend balanced diets, eating nutritious food, staying away from chemicals, avoiding junk food, getting enough rest, exercise, etc… If you had ever actually consulted a practioner, you would know this.

    Edit: @Weise – Actually most doctors don’t tell you ANYTHING about eating right or healthy living, other than asking if you smoke and if you do, you shouldn’t. They peer down your throat, listen to your heart and give you an antibiotic and send you on your way. NEVER has a medical doctor that I’ve been to asked me what my diet was like or made suggestions for exercise or other healthy living. Since I practice complementary med, I also see medical doctors too.
    @Angry. You are spouting on something that isn’t even the topic of the question aren’t you? I was refuting the questioner’s misinformation only. I personally could give a rat’s behind if you ever went to an alt med practitioner or not.

    2nd edit: @Weise. I am floored by your ASSumptions. I gave that as an example. Should I go into what a doctor would look at or prod for every type of visit or ailment there is? LOL. You must have more time than me.
    —- I have a routine physical every year. At that physical, the doc (my current dr. is an Internal medicine doc) looks in my ears, my throat, listens to my heart, my breathing, pokes about on my abdomen, blood pressure, temp, heart rate…..and the med tech and he both ask the routine questions regarding smoking or drug use, and general activity level (standard H & P) Essentially, no information is given regarding exercise/diet.
    —Contrast that with a friend of mine who owns a Health Food store and is working on his Naturopathic cert. While he may advise a vitamin or mineral here or there, he focuses more on diet and exercise. He, in fact, actually does consultations for diet/weight loss – and when my son consulted with him, he NEVER advised for a diet supplement or weight loss enhancer. It was strictly meal plans and exercise.
    Are there some out there that push supplements at the expense of proper diet and exercise? Yep. Shaklee comes to mind…..but there ARE good and honest people in the Alt Med field just as there are some good doctors. And some quacks in BOTH fields.
    Your blanket statements and prejudical assumptions are starting to bore me.

  • Weise Ente

    If anyone had ever been to a real doctor, they would have been told to eat well and exercise before anything else.

    It’s only a matter of time before Big Altie (AKA Big Placebo) gets to them.

    Edit: Apparently Flashflood has never been to a real doctor in the last several decades. They only peer into your throat if they think you have a throat infection.

  • angrydoc

    I’ve always wondered about that.

    @Flashflood: Why should I go to a non-professional alt med practitioner who has not the same education and clinical experience of a real doctor just so he or she can tell me things that the real doctor can tell me too? The real doctor can also give me further advice on health issues while the quack can’t.

  • I have been to both, conventional doctors and alt med practitioners.
    The only one to advise on diet was an alt med practitioner.
    Not one has advised on exercise. None have advised taking vitamin pills.

    This is all getting a bit boring. There are good and bad in all walks of life and in every profession.

    Weed out the wicked people who promise to cure terminal illnesses with silly treatments and I have great difficulty with the memory of water.

    Live and let live.

  • apparently you are unaware that much of our food is grown in depleted soil and consequently has only a fraction of the nutritional content it would normally. yes, it is unnatural to have to supplement the diet in this manner. people wouldn’t need to if producers would farm organically.

  • Pretty crazy that the mods would even consider removing it, but hey, what does that tell you?

    A massive part of the vitamin industry is actually owned by Big Pharma (who else have the resources to churn out pills by the trillions?)

    So, when the alties are pushing vitamins, they’re actually doing Big Pharma’s ‘dirty work’ for them. The irony seems to be completely lost on the alt med people and they carry on regardless.

    It’s bizarre that for people who are so hooked on ‘natural’ cures they’re far happier shoving a dozen pills down their throat than eating an orange or banana.

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